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| STATEMENT OF THE CHORLEY FAMILY CONCERNING ROBBERT VAN DEN BROEKE Posted August 19, 2012 My name is RICHARD DAVID CHORLEY and I am DAVID JOHN CHORLEY'S eldest son. Together with DOUG BOWER, my Father was one of the two original English Corn Circle Artists. During the late 70s and from that time onwards, my Father made me privy to information regarding the creation of many of the most renowned circles and it was a special and very entertaining time. From JEAN ROOK'S initial coverage in the Daily Express right up until the date when we decided to break the story many years later, it became very clear to me that for some reason, the circles seemed to attract more than their fair share of people with spurious motives. Of course over the decades we have become used to much speculation regarding the creation and meaning of the circles, ranging from alien involvement to supposed natural reactions along with various other 'theories' which I do not intend to discuss in this statement. Our family's opinion is that the English Crop Circles are a particularly beautiful British Modern Art Form - one of British Modern Art's crown jewels to be exact - and they should be appreciated as such and enjoyed in the appropriate manner. We are very proud of our Father's seminal role in the creation of the Art form and had he have lived, he would have absolutely loved the elaborate and stunning creations of today's Artists. I spoke many, many times to my Father at length, about what he believed to be the 'inspiration' behind the works he and DOUG created and he always came back to the same conclusion. He would say that it was the raw beauty of the English countryside that inspired them and that inside that beauty there were - and are - undefinable energies which attract and draw the Artist to the land. Both my Father and DOUG had spent a lot of their formative years in the countryside and had been touched, creatively speaking by its' energies and forms. In a certain sense, they could be both termed as being semi-mystics in their approach and relationship with the countryside although their demeanour and character was not designed to enhance this impression. The way they have been portrayed to the world over the years is far from accurate, given that they were much more than elderly 'practical jokers' or cynical, agenda-driven 'Hoaxers'. They were in fact, highly sensitive Artists, both possessing robust physical strength for their age and both with sharp intellects and a wicked sense of the comic and absurd. They were men of the countryside and they were drawn to the countryside for the ultimate artistic expression of their emotional relationship with its' spirit and form. 'We wanted the biggest canvas in the world' David Chorley. In that intimate desire and the later manifestation of its' energy lies the true magic of the corn circles. As with previous and further contemporary land art, within the corn circles, the land becomes an extension of our human emotions and journey. As images, the circles represent a spectacular physical embodiment of our love of nature and our wonder at its' magnitude and secrets. 'Vita Brevis Ars longa'. Life is short, Art is eternal....Art is the way in which we as humans find a way to converse beyond the normal human mediums. My Father's theories regarding their labours, were not based in what is marketed as the 'supernatural' but in a very deep and spiritual 'love affair' with the beauty of physical nature and the forces of creation behind it. He did not define any further than that and also would be at pains to point out the level of humour also involved. In later years, my Father was always ready to allow people to speculate around him and he indeed retained a very 'tongue in cheek' approach to the whole subject. He was a genuinely nice and humble man who although gregarious and loving the company of interesting people, loved nothing more than to be left alone with his brushes and paints. I have spoken at length to my brother and other family members and they are quite bemused and surprised to learn of this gentleman's claims [Ed: Robbert van den Broeke]. They are completely at odds with our Father's beliefs and personality. They are patently absurd and my family share the distaste of PAT DELGADO'S loved ones, in heartily and utterly dismissing the credibility of such tales. We also find certain other factors of this gentleman's conduct, in relation to threats made towards COLIN ANDREWS and others of grave concern. We are not the type of family to take that type of thing lightly and if the gentleman persists in such behaviour, we will take whatever legal actions needed in order to ensure he refrains from doing so. The naive technology and amateur style aspects of the videos posted on 'Youtube' concerning these matters are frankly, embarrassing and simply not funny either. At this moment in time, we are publicly requesting that the said gentleman ceases from any more of these ludicrous claims and that he stops claiming to have any contact/relationship/channel of communication with our Father unless he can of course, provide genuine scientific proof, the nature of which would be judged as conclusive inside a legal framework. If he wishes to communicate personally with us, or meet to discuss his claims we are more than ready to discuss the issues face to face with him at any time For the record, this statement has been constructed by myself and my brother with no encouragement or coercion with any other individuals or groups. It is our position on a matter we take very seriously. RICHARD CHORLEY on behalf of the CHORLEY FAMILY, Southampton, England August 19th 2012 CONTACT |
| This website posting dated: May 15, 2012 Robbert van den Broeke claims images of Pat Delgado and David Chorley appeared on his camera - Pat Delgado's family issue statement of concerns. HERE |
| This website posting dated: July 14, 2012. Robbert van den Broeke claims two more deceased friends of Colin Andrews have appeared, and with messages and warnings for Colin. HERE |
| IN THE COMING DAYS, IMPORTANT FINDINGS WILL BE MADE PUBLIC OF A SPECIAL INVESTIGATION CARRIED OUT BY EXPERTS INTO CERTAIN CLAIMS MADE BY ROBBERT VAN DEN BROEKE CONCERNING PAT DELGADO AND DAVID CHORLEY SPECIFICALLY. |
| Left to right: David Chorley and Doug Bower planning crop circles. Copyright: Rob Irving |
| Second Family Affected by Dutch Medium Robbert van den Broeke Issues a Statement and Warning of Legal Action. |
| The Gatekeeper to Robbert van den Broeke is Nancy Talbott, a UFO and Crop Circle Investigator at a Research Group calling itself BLT. She reported on their website about Robbert’s miracle: Chorley’s “consciousness” then communicated his awareness (now that he is “in the afterlife”) of how important it is that people respect the loving force behind the crop circles. Chorley also expressed sincere regret that while he was on earth he had gone to the media and said that crop circles were “just a joke”, and that he and Doug had said they made them all. He told Robbert that he knew there were many genuine crop circles — those that occur around Robbert and many in other countries around the world, and also some each year in England. Chorley then added that “angels” and “light beings” are now “providing energy” to many of the man-made circles (particularly those in the UK) because these circles have become spiritual meeting places. He emphasized that people should not be confused if they have mysterious experiences in man-made formations since many of these circles are now also being imbued with this “positive spiritual energy” — the experience of which is the primary purpose of the circle phenomenon. Chorley also emphasized that when visitors to crop circles have spiritual or mystical experiences while inside the formations they are actually facilitating the ability of the “energy from the other dimension” to come toward them. BLT link: http://www.bltresearch. com/robbert/delgadochorley.php |
| THREATS TO COLIN ANDREWS? Robbert's statement about my Heart and Lung was initially taken to be a threat but I am prepared to consider that it was intended as a health warning - unprofessionally conveyed via the Internet instead of privately as any responsible professional person would do. Colin Andrews |
| NOTICE: Research Goal My goal is to investigate with a team of experts working with me, some of the specific claims made by Robbert van den Broeke and Nancy Talbott on their respective websites. It is my aim to establish what has actually taken place and establish mechanisms and methods by which they have, or have not, been achieved. There is NO DESIRE TO HURT IN ANY WAY, ROBBERT VAN DEN BROEKE, NANCY TALBOTT OR OTHERS CLOSE TO THESE EVENTS. To eliminate human error or interference could be to learn more about the established subject of Mediumship and miracles that could be larger than any of us. I am not prepared to place my blind trust in recent claims surrounding my deceased friends and colleagues, Pat Delgado, David Chorley, Paul Vigay and David Kingston, based upon restricted data and denied access. Hence this work. Colin Andrews August 2012 |
| The site of respected UK researcher Andrew Russell, which is covering this issue: HERE. To the Chorley Family from Tom Mellett, Los Angeles, CA: " I encourage you to take whatever legal action you can against Robbert van den Broeke in the Netherlands. However, such action needs to include his American “handler,” Nancy Talbott, who has been backing and promoting Robbert for well over a decade now. She has also been acting as his........." Source. |
| UPDATED August 26, 2012 The family of Paul Vigay issue a statement HERE |
| =============================== Below is correspondance between Richard Chorley, representing his family and Robbert van den Broeke's gatekeeper, Nancy Talbott Posted with permission of Mr. Chorley August 9, 2012 Mr. Chorley, I knew your father only from the widespread media reports about him and Doug Bower and had no idea how to contact any of your family prior to receiving this email from you. Not knowing what you may have been told about me or Robbert van den Broeke I can only tell you that I have been working with Robbert for 14+ years now and know him to be a totally honest, gentle, compassionate man whose every effort is to help people become aware of a loving spiritual presence or "energy" he has been in contact with since he was a child. This "energy" is associated both with the crop circle phenomenon and also with the spiritual essence of people who have died, and it manifests constantly and utterly spontaneously, using him as a "medium." It appears that you do not accept the possibility that such a situation can be real, but it is a fact that your father's image did appear on both the videocamera and on Robbert's digital camera with no manipulation of any kind by anyone. And Robbert is certain that it was your father's "energy" which contacted him and wanted his thoughts and image made public. Because of Robbert's many years of providing images and information from deceased relatives to hundreds of other people, all of whom have expressed being comforted by such events, it did not occur to him (or to me) that anyone might react with anger. I hope you can accept that no disrespect or unkindness was intended. Sincerely, Nancy Talbott P.S. If you would like to read more information about Robbert, please see: http://www.bltresearch.com/robbert.php If you would like to read about other images of deceased people which have appearing both on Robbert's camera and on various other people's cameras, please see this report: http://www.bltresearch.com/robbert/apparition1.php |
| Mr. Chorley, Please save yourself the time and trouble of any further correspondence. You have already made your viewpoint clear and I have done my best to do the same. I don't intend to read any additional assaults on my or Robbert's intelligence or integrity. You must either accept what I have written as truthful, or not, and get on with your life--because I have said what I can. Sincerely, Nancy Talbott ============================ From : Richard Chorley To: Nancy Talbott Nancy...A rather rude and arrogant response to a simple email telling you I would respond to your original message today. Okay, let's get some things clear from the start. Assaults? Very dramatic language... The only assaults that have taken place here are the ones perpetuated by Robbert on the name and memory of my Father and others. You have an absolute audacity in using such language when you have willingly helped perpetuate this rubbish and in the process have upset and seriously annoyed a number of families. And are you now telling me that we as a family do not have the right to contend claims such as this if we feel suspicious of people's motives? You are telling me to get on with my life? How about you and Robbert getting on with your lives and leaving my Father, Mr Delgado and others to rest in peace? How about you remove all this nonsense from your websites, given you are now fully aware that your claims are seriously upsetting the relatives of the men concerned? Please do not tell me that you claim to care about any of that in the slightest. You do not or you would not persist in championing this stuff. You are far more concerned with your own profile and selling Robbert to the world. That is reality, Miss Talbott. Reverse the situation....How do you think you would feel if obscure mediums you had never heard of, began posting claims and videos like this all over 'Youtube' and other websites/media vehicles regarding your dead relatives? That your dead relatives were in 'touch' with people and those people were purporting supposed views, positions and statements that were/are completely at odds with everything your relatives ever stood for and believed in life?...You would not feel angry and insulted? You would not feel that your relatives memory had been 'assaulted' as you call it? Think honestly about that and the application of the word 'assaulted'. As usual with people in in these situations you are deliberately avoiding detail although that is not surprising....Robbert's claim that my Father had apologised for 'Stating they'd made all the crop circles' shows exactly how flawed his perspectives are....As I have already told you, my Father and Doug Bower never once claimed to have made 'all the Corn Circles' and it was a point of major annoyance to my Father that this piece of spurious disinformation was constantly used against him and Doug over many years....In fact I would state that it was the single most annoying factor to him of the entire saga...They conceived the original methods and constructed the original renowned circles, which is what my Father and Doug were talking about in their original interviews...but other Circle makers quickly cottoned on and before too long there were various other teams at work....I repeat, why on earth would my Father be apologising in death for something he never said or claimed in life anyway? The whole concept is utterly ludicrous..... Regarding your comments about sincerity, honesty and motives etc. As a number of other people have pointed out, if you and Robert were genuinely sincere, then you would have endeavored to have contacted the families concerned with all this, long before you decided to blurt it all out to the world. If you had really wished to contact us, it would have been a relatively simple trail in the Crop Circle world. The truth is you never had any intention of contacting us and neither did he. These ridiculous claims have been slammed across the globe as part of a naked promotional campaign on behalf of Robbert's supposed gifts....You know that, he knows that and we know that. Of course there are always gullible people out there who hang on all this as if it is some type of mystic revelation but surely you can see that the images in the video are clearly taken from stills of my Father when he was alive! Is Robbert with his great 'gift' really trying to ask us to accept that the 'form' of those beyond this world reflects exactly that of their former worldly bodies?!! And you are really asking me to take you seriously dear?.... Of course you do realise that if all this was true, it would represent the greatest events to ever take place in the history of mankind? Genuine bona-fide appearances from the other side? Caught on camera? Now, if you really believed that to have taken place and that you were party to close contact with the 'vehicle', would you really go around sending rude emails to the relatives, telling them they would simply have to accept your version and to 'get on with their lives'? No, I feel that the human beings selected for events of such magnitude would exhibit far more grace and consideration for the relatives of the supposed visitors, a fair comment? I belive that sincere people would be far more concerned with communicating with those relatives and showing them the validity of their claims...Surely you can see the ration of such points? Perhaps you would care to ponder on the issues raised in this email and examine your own conscience in relation to all of this. We are talking about real people here, sons and daughters, grandchildren who loved their Grandfather very dearly, you claim to be acting with sincerity yet send emails like that last one? I request again that you remove from your website all details of these claims and further ask you to pass this message onto Robbert at the earliest possible opportunity. In addition, I request that you ask Robbert to contact us personally with any proof he may wish to share with us regarding all this. Surely he would be prepared to do this if he is acting with sincerity and in the manner you claim? Richard Chorley |
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| A lively discussion is also taking place on this issue at Andy Russell's website, Circular State of Mind HERE |
LATEST UPDATE August 29, 2012 Nancy Talbott tells Chorley family she will not accept any further correspondance from them and to get on with their lives. >>>> |
LATEST UPDATES August 29, 2012 Nancy Talbott tells Chorley family she will not accept any further correspondance from them and to get on with their lives. August 30, 2012 Richard Chorley to Nancy Talbott "...appropriate Legal Action..." |
| Posted August 30, 2012 From: Richard Chorley To: Nancy Talbott Having now read the ludicrous claims you are helping to promote as regards our father David John Chorley, we are now requesting that you desist in further advocating of these matters. Our Father was an Artist. The nonsense that people like you help to encourage across the world is in direct contradiction to the spirit in which they were originally conceived by Doug and my Father. They are an Art form, nothing more, nothing less. It is not only the general idea of these claims which is insulting but the detail. The lies perpetuated, for example, that they ever claimed to 'have made them all' are gross distortions of the truth. They did not claim that. Never, under any circumstances. That was one of the things which angered my Father most in life, that certain people had distorted his words and attributed such a claim to him.My Father and Doug made the first original batches of renowned circles after which other people began to grasp the techniques and added further variations and more and more appeared. If there is any more of this rubbish forthcoming we will take all appropriate legal action to ensure those responsible are brought to account for their actions. =========================== |